I've explained it in a couple of the comments above, and I've changed the lvl 1 talent. I still think beginners could use Mana Thirst for their first couple of matches, to get used to his abilities.

Tbh, I've never been a huge fan of the "collect globes for more hp regen" so I kinda underestimated it. After I tried it out I realized it was just as good, if not better. I tried out Mana Thirst in a couple of games, after running some of my first games pretty much oom after a few min. Mana Thirst was great for laning and you'd pretty much never go oom. I still think it's a viable talent to start out with if you just wanna get a feel for his abilites. But later on, I'd opt for...

Yeah I noticed, lol! In that case it's not really that good at all no.. you wanna be using it to deal as much damage as possible, and regain as much HP as you can. But like you say, there might be some use for it incase you wanna "snipe" someone off. I think I'd go with Reanimation or Block instead tho :p

Yeah I had a couple games after reading that where I tried without and I didn't seem to have too many issues either. I'll change it to Mana Thirst being more of a "pick this if your running low on mana" talent. In my opinion, Hopelessness would be useful if I'm up against enemy heroes which can widen the gap, kite and has long range and so forth. Sgt, Jaina, Raynor and maybe Azmodan. I'm going to have to try it out aswell and see how it goes. Thanks!

Yeah I agree. Wouldn't be much of use on either of those 2 maps. Spell Shield is indeed underrated, and tbh I've been overlooking it for quite some time aswell. It sounds like you've gone for a more tank orientated build, whilst mine focuses more on a mix of both. Reading through some of these comments and thinking them over really gives me a wider insight into the different talents and builds Leoric can have. He's brand new, so testing is needed. It's great to recieve such feedback...

No problem! Oh wow, typo error there I suppose! I did this at the middle of the night so was pretty damn tired :p Thanks for notifying me! I've also been trying out Fealty Unto Death and it's pretty damn good aslong as you're in range of minions. I guess the 5% doesn't make that much of a difference when minions are dying left and right. I'm going to do some more testing with both talents and see what I come up with, but I'll be sure to add some more description to the lvl 4...

You have a good point there! Didn't actully think about that. Think I'll remove him from my block section!

He does indeed attack VERY slow, but his Skeletal Swing damage is incredibly high. I'm going to have to experiment more with the pusher build to see if it's actually any effective. But same as you think personally, I don't think he should be a pusher either. But I wanna see if it's possible to use him as that, and in that case, effective enough. Block might be wasted in your opinion, and that's A-ok! In the end, it all comes down to personal preference and playstyle :) Thank you...

It does indeed! It would probably be benficial if you went for the pusher build and stood in lane for a good while. But, by choosing Reanimation you won't get Mana Thrist, which I see as a must if your going to go with pusher build. Thanks for your feedback :)

Hi there! I've been using heroesfire for a long time now, and since my new favorite Hero was just released I decided to make a guide about him! I've always thought about making one, and I think now's the time. It is ofcourse Leoric, and I'm making an In-depth guide, where I'll go into every single little detail about all his abilities, talents and stats. You can check it out here: If you could give me some feedback on how it looks and what I can improve that would be great! I...