I agree with the nerfs being a bit much, TLV did need a nerf, agreed, but I think it's gone a bit overboard. My main gripe is the trait change. Viking Hoard is incredibly unimaginative and boring as a trait, and looking across traits fairly weak as well given Blizz slashed the regen per orb in half. I'd be happier if even the Viking Bribery was the trait and you could pick VH as a level 1 talent. Since the removal of fast restart you find that early game the Vikings tend to need to...

Thanks for this swift, but to the point guide. I've followed your logic myself and seen the massive value increase of Play Again! Since the removal of Fast Restart, and generally take it most games to offer a hasty split push threat or return to combat option. I agree the team really needs to get behind you. I have lost count the number of times people have moaned at me for not lending all Vikings to early objectives in the game. In such games if we lose the loss is generally attributed to...

UPDATE: - The Eternal Conflict has been added under the map-specific section. - The Butcher has now been added to "Meet your Host!" - Lost Vikings Host and Clone information has been updated in lieu of the latest patch.

I've seen many Kel'Thuzad concepts on here, and one thing I wanted to stray from is making the raising of undead minions passive (as pretty much all of them do) as this is unimaginative play, and is too rewarding for little conscious effort. The idea that Kel simply needs to be on a lane to get undead minions would make him too powerful. Tying the building of a scourge army to active ability use means Kel has to make a concentrated effort to manage and maintain his minions. Plus it...

UPDATE - Added "Abathur says" throughout the guide, because why not? Gives some flavour. Added new section describing working with Abathur as other players, with common "problem areas" covered. PROGRESS - Will be adding some additional content "in closing" with screencaps and stats of my own Abathur games once I build a nice collection.

Many thanks for the above post, it's just what my guide needed!

The changes look good! I agree, sacrificing his AA damage would be nonsensical, after all he has a massive axe! Plus, not all tanks need to tank in the same way! Anub proves that. Having good base AA means the synergy with his new trait talent would make for some effective healing. It wasn't a problem with bone shield per say, rather it, in conjunction with his passive bulk made it potentially problematic. The new Bonestorm looks good. My primary concern was the old one was...

Cool concept, remains faithful to the Marrowgar of WoW which makes it well thought out from an aesthetic point of view. I do have a few comments though. I don't intend to come across as critical (if it seems so). Marrowgar's passive attributes are a bit too strong in general. He has the highest HP figure I've seen for a Warrior, backed up by what is additionally the best AA-DPS for a warrior. Typically I'd expect to see a decrease in effective tanking or some other area that warriors...

Yeah the numbers would need real work to make it balanced. Numbers have never been my strong suit when it comes to concepts, there's a fine line between minion heroes being too underwhelming or too strong.