They could just stop at the trait removal, and the hero would be half as good as it was. But they also went to deny pre-10 Jump, and leave Norse Force out of the equation. Early game you can still spread, but the attention span needed for each baby sitting is increased dramatically. Usually, I end up hugging the gate initially, and just soaking while my team does something more useful. I am unsure on what they tried to achieve? High competitive level, suggests that TLV were over the...

Edited after some games. Executioner/Fury of the Storm was just amazing. Always coupled with Play Again. I need to learn how to position properly, so it's going to take a bit of practice. Namely, you need to leave a viking in a safe distance in order to resummon all 3. Although Executioner is only self procced by Olaf (and most of the times is enough), in ALL teamfights I always found targets to burn down.

Probably the only hero that is SO dependent on its team to function properly. As far as the build goes, the level 20 Play again enhance requires some aggressive gameplay and is never guaranteed that it will work out, so...I will be trying the Executioner/Fury of the Storm way and see how it goes. Thanks for the comments.

I am under the same impression. The two heroics are dependent on how the game goes, the map and the opposing team. By the way, I posted my findings on the Vikings on a published guide here, and referenced yours in the final chapter. Keep it up.

Thanks for the reply. Having a team that backs you up is very important to get the plan right.People that won't understand how TLV works, will ping your hiding Vikings, or will blame you for not joining. It's the prime example of a hero that shines when there is a plan. Part of the reason why it's at 5% popularity. My view is that Blizzard went over the top with the nerfs (they could achieve the same thing just by removing Fast Restart), but what's done is done. In general try to...

Click3r, it's not kind words, it's the truth. People would just drive away from a nerfed, hard to play hero, let alone that they would never update a guide concerning it. So Kudos. On the topic, I've been toying a lot with Play Again! and I am unsure if it's better than Longboat. It's a different heroic, it requires some form of viking formation, so that you let Erik run away and revive all at a safe place and you need to make sure that your team gets the most out of you. Sometimes it can...

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am playing them a lot lately, after the patch. They definitely got nerfed, but they are far from unplayable, like they said some days ago.

I've tried both and I can say that I haven't seen a huge difference in the midgame after taking either Follow Through or Wind Shear. It's definitely better getting the lower CD in the early game, because you can run away more times, but Follow Through also serves its purpose likewise, due to the fact that you can generate tons of damage if you train on how to use it, meaning that you won't have to run away as much :)

You seem to rate Follow Through as being a bad choice on its tier, by saying that it depends on landing auto attacks in between spells. Isn't this what Trhall is all about? I understand that Windfury is the bread and butter of the DPS output, but really Follow-Through synergises so well with it that it's almost helping to 100-0 anything in a full Windfury duration, especially if you manage to land a Chain Lightning/Wolf in between.

Thank you for your reply. It's indeed what I have found out also. Dragon Shire's uniqueness is that the level objectives take place on the lanes, so you get them crowded early on, and the contest is so strong that you can't really answer gangs to your Vikings if you go Olaf+Baelog/Erik. My best results came from keeping them together in mid lane. In general, I've found out that the power of Vikings is to know when to soak and this is when ALL other people are busy doing something else....