Chen is nothing without his drink, any good crowd control hero can counter chen very well, and look at enemy team, they have; Uther&Anub&Tyrande, they are highly on crowd control so best choice is obviously picking johanna, but the guy obviously didnt care they are countering chen, and passed johanna to pick chen. I watched the game guy dodged stun skillshots well, but barely helped his team, no damage, enemy team mostly ignored him, i really wouldnt trust who takes chen on these...

But... But they will ignore you! You should at least get level 16 %90 slow talent so that you pose some threat if not the tier 2 flying kick damage, and i really think brewmasters balance is mandatory, its best talent in Chen's kit... Chen is not a tank due to "cc" meta, this will work when enemy has little to none cc heroes, but when they have a good cc hero, you will do little dmg, and pose little threat... Maybe going full offense as i do, taking all the offense talents like...

I dont think neither of em are tanks, tank need some "disturbing kit" to get the attention, or else they would just ignore you if you play Chen or Arthas as a tank. I play them as 2nd warriors to clash trough enemy ranks and get some kills, with that tactic i do assassin amount of dmg, but thats just my style, maybe in tourneys we ll see some Arthas or Chen as solo warrior too, but i highly doubt it unless a patch hits them, i dont think they are meant to be tanks, blizzard kinda...

I beg to differ, as blizzard said it themselves, "Warrior does not necessarily mean a tank, johanna might fill that class perfectly" Arthas is a roamer, has roaming kit but ppl seem to ignore those kits and go for rune tap and all, we saw in tournament how it should be used, but people still dont understand what "Warrior" actually means, Sonya is a warrior not a Tank, Chen is a warrior not a Tank, Johanna, Leoric, Muradin are warriors and Tanks. I ve written "2nd...

Actually neither thrall nor illidan is a good roamer. Watch every tourney, Arthas has always been used as roamer, the reason for that is, he has that great root and perfect character to punish that person who is rooted, Arthas has really good slows, Arthas is much like Tyrande, he helps team kill enemy, he is not initiator, he wont be a good first laner, or he wont be top dmg at anything, but when played well, he will secure so many kills for the team, thats why Arthas and Tyrande is always...

As i ve mentioned, i like using Arthas as roamer, and your frozent tempest to "actually" slow enemy, they should be damaged by it for 5 seconds non-interrupted, so that you can slow them by %30, instead you can go frost strike for a good roaming; You root enemy, activate frozen tempest, hit with frozen strike, and there you have the kill, he will be slowed by %50-%60. I really, REALLY think rune tap is bandwagon effect, they look at it like; "Arthas is a tank, hmm then i...