So I have done some games with alternating my skills from giant killer to frost shot and it helps a lot more I have also been testing nexus killer and once again I feel like it gives Valla a little more utilities so Thanks for the feed back really good changes.
The only reason I like giant killer is when you go oom you still have viable damage.
Also I agree with you that most people wont let you hit 4 times but if your team is also stunning them they really dont have much of a choice and it does tons of damage.
These are the reasons I prefer the 2 abilities but at the same time I can see where the frostshot can get an extra kill but I also like doing camps and not wasting mana on them when I dont have too.
At level 13 frostshot instead of giant killer. Cause this is not an auto-attack build and frostshot offers A LOT to this build. An extra escape or a big time slow so you can finish them off with your hungering arrow easier when they flee. You won't be using auto attack that much, so giant killer is a waste slot IMO.
At level 20 bolt of the storm instead of storm of vengeance. Cause 9 out of 10 players won't let them stun 4 times. Not even 2 times, as it's very, very easy to escape from this skill.
Fair enough the Threat guide was based off of experience with playing against other champions and now that I have more games with her I agree with the diablo thing. I do think gazlow is a little easier because if you can catch him with out turrets its almost like getting nova out of stealth. The nexus frenzy is really good but for trying to 1v1 an illidan I have had more success in using 4-wave. (the 20 is really personal pref)
This is my build of choice for playing Valla. It plays more of a sniper/chaser than a true team fight dps build. I'm kinda surprised to see it so low in votes since it's so much fun!
I disagree with some of the threat rankings though. Diablo is far more of a threat than Arthas with his stun/throw, but you have Diablo a 1 saying "just kite" (which you can do easily to Arthas), and Arthas a 9 only because you do less damage when his ult is up? I'd also put Gazlowe up higher for the reason you listed with Arthas; all those turrets eat up your hungering arrow hits so it's hard to do any good damage on him. I'd also put Nova a little lower, because as long as you can survive her combo she's very easy to burst down with all your arrows. If you can knock her out of stealth she's almost a free kill every time.
I also rarely take the 4-wave ult as my 20. If the team is melee-heavy or if we have good AE stuns (Diablo, ETC) I'll pick it up, but I feel like I get more use out of Nexus Frenzy. Especially since you now have long-range basic attacks along side your long-range hungering arrows!
I have been using this build and I am currently ranked 31 with it I will continue to update the guide and rank If you ever want to play ranked with me you can always add me in game Zurwrath
This is the build I've run on Valla the last times I've played her. I'm no great Valla player, but for me this is really nice since her ability damage is also strong, not just her auto attacks. Sure, it's mana heavy, but it wrecks people caught out of position.
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It brings more for camps, pushing and hero damage.
Together with auto attack build this is my favourite.
Also I agree with you that most people wont let you hit 4 times but if your team is also stunning them they really dont have much of a choice and it does tons of damage.
These are the reasons I prefer the 2 abilities but at the same time I can see where the frostshot can get an extra kill but I also like doing camps and not wasting mana on them when I dont have too.
At level 13 frostshot instead of giant killer. Cause this is not an auto-attack build and frostshot offers A LOT to this build. An extra escape or a big time slow so you can finish them off with your hungering arrow easier when they flee. You won't be using auto attack that much, so giant killer is a waste slot IMO.
At level 20 bolt of the storm instead of storm of vengeance. Cause 9 out of 10 players won't let them stun 4 times. Not even 2 times, as it's very, very easy to escape from this skill.
I disagree with some of the threat rankings though. Diablo is far more of a threat than Arthas with his stun/throw, but you have Diablo a 1 saying "just kite" (which you can do easily to Arthas), and Arthas a 9 only because you do less damage when his ult is up? I'd also put Gazlowe up higher for the reason you listed with Arthas; all those turrets eat up your hungering arrow hits so it's hard to do any good damage on him. I'd also put Nova a little lower, because as long as you can survive her combo she's very easy to burst down with all your arrows. If you can knock her out of stealth she's almost a free kill every time.
I also rarely take the 4-wave ult as my 20. If the team is melee-heavy or if we have good AE stuns (Diablo, ETC) I'll pick it up, but I feel like I get more use out of Nexus Frenzy. Especially since you now have long-range basic attacks along side your long-range hungering arrows!
I like this guide.